There’s a great polish on the songs on The Cracks That Built The Wall—how much of an impact did Andrija Tokic (Alabama Shakes, Benjamin Booker) and Heba Kadry (Future Islands, The Mars Volta) have on the recording?
The biggest impact on the polish actually came from Kevin Bowe, he really worked with us to produce a much more refined sound. Then when we had it pristine we took it to Andrija to sand off some of those smooth edges and put it through that vintage filter of a sound. He has a great ear for adding the grit back. Heba just took it all and made it clear. It was a lot of cooks in the kitchen and Heba was able to make it sound like we planned it that way.
You spent years in production with this record. Talk about that process and who you worked with.
We went in to the studio with Kevin Bowe (The Replacements, Meat Puppets), originally just to record a single, then it turned in to an EP, and then we just kept going. He understood the way that I worked and he worked around that to get it all together. We just kept working on stuff till we felt like we had the record we wanted. He made it all seem like it was still a very personal record. He recorded us in studios and then in basements, and then he even let me take some mics so I could continue to do all my vocals in my bedroom. It still just feels like that personal indie project we started years ago.